Esoteric Dissertations from a One-Track Mind

February 7, 2008

Rollins on Evolution and the New Dark Ages

Filed under: culture, history, politics, religion, science — Tags: , , — codesmithy @ 11:22 am

Below is Henry Rollins “Teeing Off” on Intelligent Design and Creationism.

(h/t Pharyngula)

Although Rollins is being bombastic when he declares  “the new dark ages are upon us,” it is important to recognize that Creationism and its secular facade Intelligent Design are throw backs to that era.

The central theme of the dark ages was: the bible, it has all the answers you’ll ever need.  If one wonders why people thought the Sun goes around the Earth or why the Earth was flat, one doesn’t have to look too much farther than the bible.  It wasn’t that the human race was profoundly less intelligent during the period, in fact many people were very well educated, in bible study.

For example, in Matthew 4:8: “Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;”  Ok, how is that possible if the world were round?  Maybe, the devil was capable of conjuring a vision to Jesus.  However, if that were the case, why take him to an exceedingly high mountain?

For the geocentric point of view, we have versus such as 1 Chronicles 16:30: “Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.”  Well, if the world cannot be moved, then it certainly isn’t going around the Sun.

A longer argument and more examples can be found in “The Flat-Earth Bible.”

As obscure as these passages are today, members of the clergy were likely to be very knowledgeable of these verses and their implications.  This is why people like Galileo Galilei were convicted of heresy for their discoveries and forced to recant their findings.  It is not enough to merely mention that people at the time believed the Sun went around the Earth, or the Earth was flat.  The reason that people believed those things, and in fact, defended them so religiously, was because that is what one would logically conclude from reading the inerrant and divinely inspired text.  An embarrassing fact that is helpfully excluded from most mainstream discussions on the topic as it is always left as a mystery to why people believed such “crazy” and demonstrably false ideas.

In this respect, we denigrate people of the middle ages at our own peril.  The intellectual underpinnings of that era have not disappeared.  When facing any foe, it is important to know exactly what you are dealing with.

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4 Comments »

  1. Henry Rollins will certainly be outraged “teed off” when he reads…

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    http://questforright.com/

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    Comment by C. David Parsons — February 7, 2008 @ 5:12 pm

  2. I edited C. David Parsons comment because I noticed that it was virtually identical to other comments he had made on other blogs. If you wish to see the comment in its entirety, look at Mr. Parsons comment on this site.

    http://thewordofme.wordpress.com/2008/01/05/intelligent-design-pushers-lie/

    In interests of keeping the signal-to-noise ratio high, I deleted the largely copied portions but left a link for those interested.

    Other people have reviewed books in his series.

    http://www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/quest_for_right_review.htm

    It appears as if Parsons gets the basic scientific facts wrong. However, I imagine that is also a perfectly consistent given that he is trying to argue that the world is so confusing, god must be doing it.

    Editing comments is something that I don’t like doing, but this case was particularly egregious. However, I would like to encourage Mr. Parsons to leave another comment if he is so inclined. I ask that he tries to address the topics at hand, and points in the post. Don’t copy and paste large portions of text from elsewhere, quote to make your point and then link.

    Comment by codesmithy — February 8, 2008 @ 10:47 am

  3. “…reading the inerrant and divinely inspired text.”

    The biblical scholar has always known that the earth was round; to wit:

    (Isa 40:22 KJV) It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

    Moreover, the Bible reveals the original configuration of Pangaea, explains the causation of continental drift, and lists the exact dates the breakup occurred.

    Henry Rollins hasn’t a clue…

    Comment by C. David Parsons — June 3, 2008 @ 3:58 am

  4. I find it interesting, Mr. Parsons, that you provide another quote without addressing the point raised in the initial post. You don’t get pick quotes out of the bible and use only those that support your case. If the bible is truly inerrant than it must all be true and you have to reconcile all the evidence, especially those that are inconvenient. The fact that you don’t explain the Matthew passage and the various others that support a view of a flat Earth is highly disingenuous. Since the passage you quote is about where god resides (the “he“), it seems more reasonable to expect that the ancient explanation is exactly how one might expect them to perceive the world: namely a world that is flat disc, with a domed heaven.

    http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/books/genesis/genesis1_circleearth.htm

    I’m sure your Pangaea explanation has a similar amount of dishonest scholarship. It just goes to show how one can shoe-horn beliefs and cherry-pick facts in order to project a more favorable view of the past. It is funny these explanations are never predictive. So, let’s identify them for what they are: the work of religious apologists.

    But, you, Mr. Parsons, also engage in an ad hominem attack. This only cements your credentials as an obvious and unapologetic shyster.

    Comment by codesmithy — June 3, 2008 @ 7:35 am


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